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Wednesday, April 16, 2014

Flight MH370 mechanical problems/fire/zombie plane theory?



Flight MH370 mechanical problems/fire/zombie plane theory?

"Caught fire. The pilots, thinking it was an electrical fire, turned off all electrical systems they could. (Worry about fire is one reason they CAN turn off everything, including the radios.) Then they turned west toward the nearest major airfield, to try to make an emergency landing.

Unable to put out the fire, they climbed to extreme altitude because the low oxygen content of thin air (there is as much oxygen, percentage-wise, but less air in total, so less oxygen) reduces the intensity of fire and would help put it out. The problem is that to do this they climbed higher than the plane was normally meant to fly, and when you get that high the air is so thin that the stall speed (the speed below which there isn't enough airflow over the wings to keep flying) starts to get dangerously close to your regular speed. So it's very easy to stall the airplane-- it stops flying and starts falling.

Any pilot is trained to recover from a simple stall. In fact all you have to do is put the nose down to gain speed, or in this case drop to a lower altitude where the air is thicker. The plane climbed to 45,000 feet then suddenly dropped to 25,000- looks like a stall and recovery to me.

It is possible they depressurized the airplane at high altitude to try to put out the fire, and then discovered their emergency oxygen masks didn't work. (Multiple failures at once are rare, but when a plane is lost it is often because of several things that went wrong at the worst possible time-- which is one reason such accidents are so rare.) If so everyone on board would probably be unconscious from this point on, and the plane just flying on automatic pilot.

"Personally, I think that is the most likely scenario. While 45,000 feet is above an airliner's usual cruising altitude, 25,000 is below it. I am just guessing here, but I would think an airliner that had stalled and was falling out of the sky from 45,000 should be able to recover before it had fallen that far. But if the pilots had set the autopilot just to keep the plane flying straight and level the autopilot, being dumb, might just keep trying to do that as the plane stays in its stall and keeps falling. This would continue until the mere thicker air at lower altitude allowed the plane to fly out of the stall on its own.

If the pilots weren't incapacitated when the plane went to its highest altitude, the plane stalled, forcing them to lower altitude again. There the fire flared up again, and the pilots were overcome by the smoke.

In any case the pilots were incapacitated, and the plane flew on from there on autopilot, going wherever it happened to be pointed.

It is likely everyone else on board was also incapacitated or dead by the time this happened. We can hope so because if not they were on the wrong side of a heavily armored security door designed to make it impossible for passengers to break into the cockpit-- and they were along for the ride to nowhere with nothing they could do.

Certainly anyone aboard would have tried to use their cell phone, but the range of a cell phone out to sea is three or four miles maybe, and they were hundreds of miles out." -Bill via Amazon Discussions

What do you think happened to Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/forum/cd/discussion.html/ref=cm_cd_et_up_redir?ie=UTF8&cdForum=Fx20DX5GEB7TUX8&cdPage=28&cdThread=Tx3QEAPS0DF6CT&newContentID=MxXKZ317MDE7FO&newContentNum=708#Mx144I8WEJAO36A

Tuesday, April 15, 2014

More Thoughts on Missing Malaysian Flight MH370:



Yahoo user Frank responds to Torrent (see previous post on this blog, below this one) with these comments regarding missing Flight MH370 via yahoo news comments (see link to article below, also I commented as yahoo user Robert):

"Great post - here's some thoughts-

So - Let's rule some stuff out.

1. Agreed - Suicide is out. The pilot would have to disable some control systems but within his capabilities. But the flew on for 7 hours - he would have had to kill all onboard too - doing that without just crashing the plane is too weird..
2. Kinda - Terrorism is out. It could have been a lone wolf type of thing - like Boston.
3. Agreed - Theft of the plane is out - this is a theory that I believe oringniated on yahoo comment boards and is about as idiotic as even the worst theories.
4. Kinda - Theft of the plane for technology is out, although terrorist would love to have a 777 to learn how to fly on - it's a difficult thing to pull off - the "radar" thing would have watched the plane land anywhere (except Diego Garcia - but the ACARS data does support the plane flying in that direction).
5. Agreed - Military seizure is a very difficult solution to a problem where so many much simpler solutions exist.
6. Out - Communicable diseases theory is straight out of Hollywood - right now there is some producer that is calling Harrison Ford about this movie right now.
7. Out - Theft of the plane to pack it full of nukes - This just couldn't happen for so many, so many, so many, so many, so many reasons - here's a short list - tracking of nukes, tracking of current flights and current squawks, the huge number of civilians that would act as part of all of these systems make a cover up in possible, RADAR - it sees planes flying around, missile defense systems, fighters ready to scramble at a moments notice, ACARS, etc.

Thought on the List of oddities:

1. Complete radio and telephone silence - last words heard: goodnight tower (no stress or concern in voice). Technological know-how and ability to disable communication systems is extreme - and the pilots should have been able to communicate using alternate forms of communication as systems began failing.
2. Disappearance from all area national radars
3. Disappearance occurred on a calm night.
4. All passengers and crew are cleared of terrorist suspicion
5. Pilots are cleared of suicidal tendencies

Conclusions: Need a single thing that can fit into all of the oddities - Rapid Cabin Depressurization - at altitude could kill everyone on board in minutes - O2 system could last 15 minutes as best (and likely on for the pilots at that time). Pilots could have still descended quickly to an altitude with enough O2. BUT, what if a spark in the O2 system cause the explosion - this would eliminate the O2 from the masks, killing everyone on board within 2 minutes. The plane would continuing flying on George - even executing the preprogrammed turnaround towards the nearest airport (common practice) but with dead pilots, the plane would keep flying til flame out."

My own thoughts are that it was either...

1. Poison gas (including, but not limited to Co2 - Carbon Monoxide).
2. Electrical fire that had deadly smoke, fire eventually burned out though.
3. Cabin Depressurization like Frank mentioned above.
4. Terrorist/Lone Wolf Bombings/Other act, also as Frank Mentioned above.
5. A fast paced deadly virus would be possible like Torrent said, possibly, killing all onboard.
6. Pilot Suicide is always possible.
7. Pilot or Hijackers crashed plane into ocean as a political act, religious one, or other. 
8. Something else.

-Rob

Mini-sub to dive again after aborting first MH370 search - Yahoo News

http://news.yahoo.com/mini-sub-tries-again-first-search-mh370-aborted-015845573.html

Monday, March 24, 2014

Flight 370 passenger's relative: 'All lives are lost' - CNN Breaking News UPDATE

(CNN) -- Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 went down over the southern Indian Ocean, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said Monday, citing a new analysis of satellite data by a British satellite company and accident investigators, and apparently ending hopes that anyone survived.

A relative of a missing passenger briefed by the airline in Beijing said, "They have told us all lives are lost."

Razak based his announcement on what he described as unprecedented analysis of satellite data sent by the plane by British satellite provider Inmarsat and the British Air Accidents Investigation Branch. He didn't describe the nature of the analysis.

But he said it made it clear that the plane's last position was in the middle of the remote southern Indian Ocean, "far from any possible landing sites."

Read more of the story here:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/24/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Wednesday, March 19, 2014

CNN - Courtney Love is as obsessed with the missing plane as you are

(CNN) -- For a minute, Courtney Love believed she'd found a clue in the case of the disappearance of Malaysian flight 370.

The saga of the missing airplane has captured the public's attention, and Hollywood is clearly not exempt from the intrigue. Love, best known as a musician, actress and wife of the late Nirvana front man Kurt Cobain, tweeted a picture of a body of water with the caption "really? look closer? check it out @DR24 #MH370 and its like a mile away Pulau Perak, where they 'last' tracked it."

See more here:

CNN - Courtney Love Finds Missing Flight MH 307?

CNN - Malaysia Airlines Flight 370: How do passenger jets change flight paths?

(CNN) -- The timing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370's change of direction is a focal point of the investigation into its disappearance, and it appears the passenger jet was programmed to steer off course before the pilots signed off with air traffic control -- and that the change of course was transmitted to air traffic controllers.
The flight's Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System communicates various data to the ground, including engine reports, maintenance requirements and weather conditions.

The last transmission from Flight 370's ACARS system came at 1:07 a.m.

The next update was due at 1:37 a.m. It never came.

While all information so far indicates that someone inside the cockpit, believed to be the co-pilot, made the last verbal communication with air traffic controllers -- "All right, good night" -- at 1:19 a.m., a law enforcement official told CNN that the plane's programmed change in direction was entered at least 12 minutes before the plane's verbal sign-off...

See more here: CNN - Malaysia Airlines Flight Path Change

CNN Gives Up, Wonders About Supernatural Conspiracy Theories for Flight 370 Disappearan

Taken from friend Lon's Blog "Phantoms and Monsters":

There's only so much "breaking news." After more than a week of wall-to-wall coverage on the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, much of it baseless speculation from vaguely defined experts, CNN today resorted to the most baseless of speculation from a certifiable non-expert about what "supernatural" or conspiratorial explanations there could be for the disappearance.

"It's where every conspiracy falls apart: How do you keep everyone quiet?" offered Brad Meltzer, an author of political thrillers and host of the History Channel's Decoded. "I'm glad you brought that up," said host Don Lemon, who proceeded to make things much stupider.

"Especially today, on a day when we deal with the supernatural, we go to church, the supernatural power of God. You deal with all of that," said Lemon, making little to no sense. "People are saying to me, why aren't you talking about the possibility — and I'm just putting it out there — that something odd happened to this plane, something beyond our understanding?" Just putting it out there!

Meltzer was more than game to offer nothing of substance. "We all kind of roll our eyes at conspiracy theories, but what conspiracy theories do is they ask the hardest, most outrageous questions sometimes," he said. "But every once in a while, they're right. And that's what we have to remember here. I think why it's captured our attention is because there's no logical explanation right now."

"You can say, oh, it crashed into the ocean, but where are the parts? Where are the pieces? Why did it keep going for seven hours? Why do you have a guy onboard who gives his watch and his ring to his wife and says keep this for my boys in case something happens to me?" he continued.

"Something smells wrong," he concluded, having added negative knowledge. "It just smells terrible. How does a jet liner, with almost 200 people on it, disappear? [Ed. note: There were 239.] How are they just gone?"

"Absolutely, absolutely," said Lemon. "Absolutely."

You can get this kind of trenchant analysis 24 hours a day, if you hate yourself. - NY Mag