Mysterious Oregon Sounds Solution?

Wave guide tunneling caused by air layer density.

Mysterious Sounds In Lake Forest, Oregon

A mysterious shrieking sound has left the residents of one Oregon neighborhood seriously perplexed.


Dave Nemeyer, fire marshal of the Forest Grove Fire and Rescue in Forest Grove, Oregon, told ABC News that he first learned of the strange noise after a local resident recorded and shared a video of it on the city's Facebook page.


"It's definitely a horrendous noise," Nemeyer said. "I have no idea what the noise is. [The resident] described to us that it was coming from the middle of the street. To me, it sounds like the sound of train tracks, that metal screeching sound, but there are no train tracks near her home ... so that's obviously ruled out.".. ABC News


The Police Dept has received hundreds of tips and theories worldwide. An expert sound analysis yielded no results other then the fact it does sound like air escaping through a valve.


If this is not a government test nor hoax, I suspect either a new insect species, biomechanical source underground, something as of yet unrecognized in our sewers (such as new types of organisms making this sound or a type of disturbance that happens underground in or around sewers) and it may possibly be residual haunting sounds, electronic interference or an atmospheric/geophysical type event.

Quantum Mechanics Can Explain Ghosts?

"Well one aspect is that Particles have ATTRIBUTES which determine their nature and INTERACTABILITY. This can also be part of the basis for Parallel universes----that is SETS of particles that interact with each other to form their own SETS of atoms, etc. but NOT interact with other sets of particles."


 These parallel universes could be where particles that come into and out of "existence" as these attributes switch back and forth and go to, in some versions of quantum theories.
 Thus with parallel universes we have one "Ghost theory" in that what we call "Ghosts" are actually beings from parallel universes that can change (or have changed) certain important particle attributes to match the particle attributes in THIS universe and become, for a short time anyway, INTERACTIVE in it. Such "disruptions" could or even would indeed generate the localized temperature and EM effects associated with the phenomena we CALL "Ghosts"----No one said ghosts had to necessarily be actual "Spirits of the dead".


 Another "Ghost theory", the most inclusive and less speculative suggests that ghosts are actually LIVING people we are seeing from another TIME--again each "instant" of time might have its own "parallel universe"--A natural periodic Einstein Rosen Bridge or "wormhole" might also connect with different "Time Planes" as well as different parts of OUR own Universe.


 This would explain "Ghost clothing", and other Ghost props, along with "Inanimate" ghosts such as "Ghost trains", "ghost cars", etc. no "spirits of the dead" required. In our 3D universe we would see a roughly spherical area containing whatever is in it (people, cars, etc.) from a different time.---Again we should expect a lot of EM disturbance around such an event--as noted by "ghost' observers with instruments.


 It seems that, in most cases those with the knowledge to recognize larger scale "Quantum effects" when they happen, are dreadfully lacking in the knowledge of what REAL, so called "Paranormal" events look like.---and vice versa." Via Yahoo Answers
 So there is a lack of people seeing a possible link between Modern Physics and "paranormal" events.----if one knows and has studied BOTH sides of the question, the solution is both evident and relatively easy---and Scientific. People need to get out of the Pre-Einsteinian science and physics of the early 1900s--and study the modern stuff.----And also be up on what real paranormal stuff looks like, get paranormal info from experience and BOOKS , not Horror movies and kids scary stories.

Strange Dreams Part 3

"Strange and wondrous and frightening dreams, filled with titans, muons, stargates with elder gods, conjunction of spheres, return of mythological things, and rise of the children of the sun."


Via friend Jesse E.

Demons of the Woods

"I'm a trail guide and backpacker. Years & miles. Seen lots of shit. I can't explain everything I've seen in the wild but I can tell you this: you will see things out there that defy explanation &, you'll spend the rest of your life wondering about them.




If you ever take word of caution, take this like your life depends on it: Don't go into the wild alone. Don't stray from your camp at night. Don't answer or seek out anything that calls you mysteriously in the night. DO NOT believe everything you see with your own eyes.


I need to repeat that, Like your life depends on it: Do not believe things, especially 'out of place' 'people', voices, or suspicious things that you see, even with your own eyes, especially when your gut & instincts are warning you.


There's something out there, something that scares grown men even like me, something we won't talk about but it's real, has no consistent form, and it lures you.




If you are a wild thing & a hunter of human beings, there's no better hunting ground than our busiest national & state parks. Note I said busiest. If you are a hunter of opportunity, then there's no better prey than the young, the weak, the old, the alone.


There's something out there, so old, so skilled, so clever & cunning, not just a being but a species, that has or have developed a specialized survival skill: luring & preying on lost or solitary humans.




Can a predator in the natural world lure, trap, summon or even hypnotize their prey? A quick google search should yield you hundreds of examples of such species in the animal, fish, bird, and insect kingdoms.




What I submit, if exist such a species, old as man, who's success depended on the successful hunting of humans, not only would it be very clever and good at it by now, but we'd have no record or memory of it in our history, just as no insect has probably ever survived an encounter with a trapdoor spider.


I submit their hunting approach is case by case. They're lure different depending on their human prey's age, strength and size, but what I submit is that our oldest natural predator, an undiscovered predator, is still operating due to it's skill of being able to read us like a book, hit us with lure (a lure I've distinctly recognized several times, particularly at night, just beyond the glow of the campfire) lead us into a trap, to never be seen or heard from again.




People I submit a thing exists, something's out there, a species, that's not too unlike Stephen King's "It".




I've felt the lure, tasted it, smelled it. It's the smell of food when you're hungry, company when you're lonely, music where there should be none, beauty where there's danger.


Nothing can explain the sensations, but deep down you'll feel it, in your gut. Something's not right. Something's waiting. Something's watching.




Ask any man who's survived long enough alone in the wild. There's a Siren like hunter out there. It'll own you dead to rights, if you don't listen to your gut."

Strange Faces in Image of Kitten (Owl, Other Face)

Possible Bigfoot Encounters/Abductions

Taken from Reddit - no sleep:


"wasn't sure where else to post these stories, so I figured I'd share them here. I've been an SAR officer for a few years now, and along the way I've seen some things that I think you guys will be interested in.


•I have a pretty good track record for finding missing people. Most of the time they just wander off the path, or slip down a small cliff, and they can't find their way back. The majority of them have heard the old 'stay where you are' thing, and they don't wander far. But I've had two cases where that didn't happen. Both bother me a lot, and I use them as motivation to search even harder on the missing persons cases I get called on. The first was a little boy who was out berry-picking with his parents. He and his sister were together, and both of them went missing around the same time. Their parents lost sight of them for a few seconds, and in that time both the kids apparently wandered off. When their parents couldn't find them, they called us, and we came out to search the area. We found the daughter pretty quickly, and when we asked where her brother was, she told us that he'd been taken away by 'the bear man.' She said he gave her berries and told her to stay quiet, that he wanted to play with her brother for a while. The last she saw of her brother, he was riding on the shoulders of 'the bear man' and seemed calm. Of course, our first thought was abduction, but we never found a trace of another human being in that area. The little girl was also insistent that he wasn't a normal man, but that he was tall and covered in hair, 'like a bear', and that he had a 'weird face.' We searched that area for weeks, it was one of the longest calls I've ever been on, but we never found a single trace of that kid. The other was a young woman who was out hiking with her mom and grandpa. According to the mother, her daughter had climbed up a tree to get a better view of the forest, and she'd never come back down. They waited at the base of the tree for hours, calling her name, before they called for help. Again, we searched everywhere, and we never found a trace of her. I have no idea where she could possibly have gone, because neither her mother or grandpa saw her come down.

•A few times, I've been out on my own searching with a canine, and they've tried to lead me straight up cliffs. Not hills, not even rock faces. Straight, sheer cliffs with no possible handholds. It's always baffling, and in those cases we usually find the person on the other side of the cliff, or miles away from where the canine has led us. I'm sure there's an explanation, but it's sort of strange.

•One particularly sad case involved the recovery of a body. A nine-year-old girl fell down an embankment and got impaled on a dead tree at the base. It was a complete freak accident, but I'll never forget the sound her mother made when we told her what had happened. She saw the body bag being loaded into the ambulance, and she let out the most haunting, heart-broken wail I've ever heard. It was like her whole life was crashing down around her, and a part of her had died with her daughter. I heard from another SAR officer that she killed herself a few weeks after it happened. She couldn't live with the loss of her daughter.

•I was teamed up with another SAR officer because we'd received reports of bears in the area. We were looking for a guy who hadn't come home from a climbing trip when he was supposed to, and we ended up having to do some serious climbing to get to where we figured he'd be. We found him trapped in a small crevasse with a broken leg. It was not pleasant. He'd been there for almost two days, and his leg was very obviously infected. We were able to get him into a chopper, and I heard from one of the EMTs that the guy was absolutely inconsolable. He kept talking about how he'd been doing fine, and when he'd gotten to the top, a man had been there. He said the guy had no climbing equipment, and he was wearing a parka and ski pants. He walked up to the guy, and when the guy turned around, he said he had no face. It was just blank. He freaked out, and ended up trying to get off the mountain too fast, which is why he'd fallen. He said he could hear the guy all night, climbing down the mountain and letting out these horrible muffled screams. That story bothered the hell out of me. I'm glad I wasn't there to hear it.

•One of the scariest things I've ever had happen to me involved the search for a young woman who'd gotten separated from her hiking group. We were out until late at night, because the dogs had picked up her scent. When we found her, she was curled up under a large rotted log. She was missing her shoes and pack, and she was clearly in shock. She didn't have any injuries, and we were able to get her to walk with us back to base ops. Along the way, she kept looking behind us and asking us why 'that big man with black eyes' was following us. We couldn't see anyone, so we just wrote it off as some weird symptom of shock. But the closer we got to base, the more agitated this woman got. She kept asking me to tell him to stop 'making faces' at her. At one point she stopped and turned around and started yelling into the forest, saying that she wanted him to leave her alone. She wasn't going to go with him, she said, and she wouldn't give us to him. We finally got her to keep moving, but we started hearing these weird noises coming from all around us. It was almost like coughing, but more rhythmic and deeper. It was almost insect-like, I don't really know how else to describe it. When we were within site of base ops, the woman turns to me, and her eyes are about as wide as I can imagine a human could open them. She touches my shoulder and says 'He says to tell you to speed up. He doesn't like looking at the scar on your neck.' I have a very small scar on the base of my neck, but it's mostly hidden under my collar, and I have no idea how this woman saw it. Right after she says it, I hear that weird coughing right in my ear, and I just about jumped out of my skin. I hustled her to ops, trying not to show how freaked out I was, but I have to say I was really happy when we left the area that night.

•This is the last one I'll tell, and it's probably the weirdest story I have. Now, I don't know if this is true in every SAR unit, but in mine, it's sort of an unspoken, regular thing we run into. You can try asking about it with other SAR officers, but even if they know what you're talking about, they probably won't say anything about it. We've been told not to talk about it by our superiors, and at this point we've all gotten so used to it that it doesn't even seem weird anymore. On just about every case where we're really far into the wilderness, I'm talking 30 or 40 miles, at some point we'll find a staircase in the middle of the woods. It's almost like if you took the stairs in your house, cut them out, and put them in the forest. I asked about it the first time I saw some, and the other officer just told me not to worry about it, that it was normal. Everyone I asked said the same thing. I wanted to go check them out, but I was told, very emphatically, that I should never go near any of them. I just sort of ignore them now when I run into them because it happens so frequently.

I have a lot more stories, and I suppose if anyone's interested, I'll tell some of them tomorrow. If anyone has any theories about the stairs, or if you've seen them too, let me know."


EDIT: Part 2 is up: https://www.reddit.com/r/nosleep/comments/3ijnt6/im_a_search_and_rescue_officer_for_the_us_forest/

Mysterious Sighting In Woods

A reported sighting of two men, one middle aged, another younger, dressed as the 1960's version of Batman and Robin was supposedly witnessed in the Midlothian Forest Preserve in Midlothian, IL at around 10:00pm last October of 2014 by a.couple parked in a lot facing a very wooded area, the two men were walking apx 15-30 yards from their car, one carrying a lantern, the other chopped up wood or logs before vanishing into the woods with tattered costumes on, the couple eventually fled the scene.




Both men were described as White, middle aged and the other younger.

Dream Interpretation by Alaskan Native

From Jesse, an Alaskan native dream interpreter:


"Most people try to interpret some psychosis into dream states, our minds however are like wi-fi receivers. Hence our dreams though have something that are part of our filter, most it isn't. But to make people feel better, you can say it's their nerves getting to them.


 This one sounds like a run of the mill be careful what you wish for, and don't go seeking out strange things having to do with a place. Lots of places have both good moments, events, and things surrounding them, also the bad. Going to search them out is one thing, or you can just ignore it, and add onto the places emotional state/structure. After all emotions, like material, and physical things are just energy interpreted, while other are manifested.
 You either move on from the thing, or find a solution, instead of just seeing the problem.


But keep what is in dreams, in the dream world, if you manifest their things outside therefore they are real. And they can already be real, but they attach to you more so then most things, when you add your own innate need to find more to them. It's best to keep what's in dreams in dream, but if she wants to find out what the murder is all about, tell her to be careful, something's don't always stay in the past."


Well said Jesse. Thanks.


. Thanks.

A Haunting Story

"My cousins nephews grandmother, Deena, I called her Aunt Deena, even though we mostly cousins, just a family tradition, all women were aunts, all men were uncle and are uncle.


 Anywho, her house was haunted, yet not in the bad way, but by most likely an elderly nice old lady who took care of her. One night we were being sort of loud leaving the house. When we heard something, politely yet insistently shushed us to be quiet.


Also she had a plant or plants that she never watered before she died, that never once died. When she passed, the plants also died. And you've always had a sense of being home, always at peace, always safe around her. What's quite disturbing but awesome, is i always had a feeling, that her caretaker ghost, followed her everywhere.


Who knows, the nose of those who knows the nose of the knowing known nosed.
" Via a friend

Paranormal Research Notes - Noises In The Attic And Other Notes

Paranormal research notes: thermal expansion and contraction; old pipes; water heaters; other housing problems.

Mistaken for: Tree's falling on houses, doors and windows slamming shut, animal and human intruders, ghosts, hauntings, paranormal activity, etc.

Still not researched yet: footsteps, voices, shadow people, moving/falling/stacking objects, dolls moving on their own, various smells, electrical/electronics problems, feelings and sensations of being watched/touched, coming down with medical problems, including dreams and nightmares, cold spots, etc.

Note: Research over period of 1 year or more; take notes, ask questions to experts in many areas; further research must be done in these areas.

Possible causes: Human/animal, building related (including, but not limited to, mold, mildew, asbestos, carbon monoxide, natural gas, other causes, etc.), auditory hallucinations/problems, wind carrying sound, sleep paralysis, night terrors, human brain functions recalling memory's/playing tricks, faulty electric wiring, pranks, hoaxes, medical/psychological related, stress, depression, medications, drug use, alcohol and other known and unknown factors.

Percentage these events worldwide are of a genuine paranormal nature:

15-25% in my estimate.

Noises In The Attic - Trained Eye Home Inspection

My Own Paranormal Experiences...

I've always been into the paranormal, ghosts, UFO's and cryptozoology (Think of actor Dan Aykroyd  from Ghostbusters and I'm an Aspie like him as well) etc. since childhood and I've had strange things happen not only to me but in my family as well, such as the following and some of it relates to my mother and family, not just me:

1. My mother has always had premonitions and dreams of airplanes crashing or earthquakes and
sometimes they would come true the nest day or even just hours after she had them when watching
the news on TV.

2. My father died when my mother was 4 months pregnant with me. When I was only a year old,
maybe younger, I would tell my mom something about my dad, even though I never knew him
like "I saw dad the other day" and "I talked with daddy" similar stuff. A psychic on the radio
also told my mother one time that I was the reincarnation of my father! (I do have a memory
of wandering around these empty, silent, somewhat dark and creepy halls in a hospital, like near a morgue area, this memory may have taken place after my dad died and before I was born, I remember it starting
from a young age and I feel the hospital is either Little Company of Mary in Evergreen Park, IL
or Christ Hospital in Oaklawn, IL).

3. When my mother was sitting alone one evening or night at a park the swing next to her started swinging
by itself. No one else was present (I was several feet away playing I think) no wind, nothing. It was Summer
I think as well.

4. My mother whom is very religious once had a dream about The Virgin Mary and she was surrounded by
pure gold and she also spoke to my mother as well. This took place in my step-grandpa Ed's house in
Mt. Greenwood at the time in his basement I think where my mom was sleeping.

5. Some of my other family members (they were from Scotland/Ireland/Lithuanian on my mom's side
and German on my father's side and in terms of ancestry as well) would pass away with people
present like friends and other family members witnessing a vapor of some sort come out of their
chest and going upward then vanishing.

6. I remember as a child running in the dark at night through where I lived at, just for fun, but it always
seemed that I was chasing something, maybe imaginary, maybe not. I have to wonder  if I was chasing
ghosts or demons or if it was just my young mind at work?

7. I was living with my mother at my step-grandpa Ed's & grandma's house in Chicago's beautuil Mt. Greenwood  area (a few blocks away from St. Xavier University) and in the middle of the night one time looked out into Ed's small backyard through a bedroom window and I swear I saw or at least thought I saw 3 dead dogs, all white in color. I told woke up my mom, told her but she didn't see anything.

8. Strange faces in tree's at my Godparents house (Peggy and Martin) in Palos Hill's, IL in their average to moderate sized backyard and it was behind this house (accross their backyard) where a woman neighbor was murdered one Summer in 1995 by her husband. Being Catholic, Martin put up a cross in  his yard to protect against evil spirits. Still... Strange. Maybe my own imagination and mind at work. Then again, maybe
not. Who knows?

9. One time in the middle of the night when I was living in Midlothian, IL our microwave which a Pastor friend brought us (it was used but almost like new, as our old one had broke so she donated it) read 666
on it. I quiackly erased it, unplugged it and maybe said a prayer or two. I was kinda freaked out for a
few weeks after that. It was dark in the kitchen and that was the only light on besides the moonlight
illuminating the small kitchen area through a window.

10. In the same Midlothian apartment I saw a shadow, a man in orange one night walking through my room
then vanishing into a wall. I ran so fast out of my bedroom I hurt my shoulder by banging it into a wall!

11. A strange whistliling sound (maybe an auditiry hallucination?) that I've heard for many years throughout my life of a man whistling. Sometimes it loud, sometimes it's soft. It really creeps me out when I hear it sometimes though.

12. Feelings of being touched, tickled, patted on the back, hair touched and sometimes screaming when I wake up (see my thoughts on #11 above) that I had for a while. I don't exp. them anymnore which is good.

I've got more stories but those are mainly non-paranormal in nature (including dreams and nightmares but excluding dreams of dead relatives) like what you'd see on Reddit assorted along stories of the paranormal.

Also: I did see a UFO once over Midlothian, IL and one through a window at a Walgreens in
Oaklawn (maybe Chicago Ridge?) during the 90's. They looked like round metallic objects just floating there in the air. These sightings occurred during the daytime btw (and one time in Midlothian I also saw a fighter jet pass close to my apt. building window as I lived on the 3rd floor which was cool!)

So there you have it! These are my stories.... -Rob

p.s. It is important to be aware of medical conditions (I havee Type 1 Diabetes myself since age 12 now almost 30) and know the basics of psychology, general science, building construction, logic, critical thinking, forensics, CSI, investigation and other areas when dealing with any typr of paranormal event in order to rule it out.

Ghost-Hunting Mistakes: Science and Pseudoscience in Ghost Investigations - Skeptical Inquirer

"Ghost investigations can be deceptively tricky endeavors. Very ordinary events can be-and indeed have been-mistaken for extraordinary ones, and the main challenge for any ghost investigator is separating the facts from a jumble of myths, mistakes, and misunderstandings. It can be very easy to accidentally create or misinterpret evidence: Is that flash of light on the wall a flashlight reflection-or a ghost? Are the faint sounds recorded in an empty house spirit voices-or a neighbor's radio? It's not always clear, and investigators must be careful to weed out the red herrings and focus on the verified information".

Later the article states after talking in length about many subjects related to this, even the hit TV show
Ghost Hunters (i.e.The Atlantic Paranormal Society TAPS, I think):

"However, in a stakeout the ghost hunter cannot control all, or even most, of the variables and conditions in the experiment he's conducting. It's important to remember that nearly anything that anyone thinks is odd for any reason can be offered as evidence of a ghost. There is an impossibly broad spectrum of phenomena that have been claimed as signs of ghosts, including lights, shadows, noises, silence, heat, cold, moving objects, smells, uneasiness, and so on. If the presence of a ghost could be narrowed down to a specific phenomenon-for example, if everyone agreed (or it had been somehow proven) that ghosts give off red light or a certain high-pitched sound-then the problem of not having a controlled location would be greatly reduced. An investigator wouldn't need to rule out every possible source of sound, smell, light, etc., but instead would need to rule out merely any sources of red light or high-pitched sounds. But because just about any phenomenon can be attributed to ghosts, there is no way to rule out or control for the conditions. A ghost stakeout or lockdown is a completely unscientific waste of time.

Ultimately, of course, whether ghost hunters choose to use scientific methods and strategies is up to them. I personally don't care either way; it's not my time, effort, and money that's being wasted by doing fundamentally flawed investigation. But over the years I have gotten results and solved many cases using scientific techniques."

This is interesting and true from what an intelligent, well educated and a bit eccentric U.S. Chaplain named Joe once told me regarding hauntings on the paranormal in general:

"1. Assuming that no specialized knowledge or expertise is needed to effectively investigate ghosts.

One of the most common assumptions among ghost investigators is that in the paranormal field “there are no experts.” If there are no experts, then of course anyone can effectively investigate ghosts. Almost all ghost hunters are amateur, part-time hobbyists, and they come from all walks of life. On Ghost Hunters, two ordinary guys who work as plumbers during the day are touted as experts on ghost investigations, although none of the team members has any background or training in science, investigation, forensics, or any other field that might help solve mysteries.

Why it's a mistake: Paranormal investigation requires no certificate; anyone can do it with no training, knowledge, or expertise whatsoever. Whether they are effective or not-actually able to solve mysteries-is another matter entirely. Effectively investigating claims and solving mysteries does require some experience and expertise-specifically in investigation, logic, critical thinking, psychology, science, forensics, and other areas."

The article then states before it closes:

"If ghost hunters don't care about performing scientifically valid investigations and are happy with the level of evidence they are getting, they are welcome to ignore this information. But they can't complain that no one offered a science-based paradigm for paranormal investigation. I believe that if ghosts exist, they are important and deserve to be taken seriously. Most of the efforts to investigate ghosts so far have been badly flawed and unscientific-and, not surprisingly, fruitless. If investigation is to be done, it should be done right."

Note: Really good article from The Skeptical Inquirer and I will look for more of these articles that take a more open minded and scientific approach to not only the paranormal but also UFO's, Cryptoxoology, etc. and are not afraid to point out mistakes people in these fields make but also other issues as well.-Rob 

Ghost-Hunting Mistakes: Science and Pseudoscience in Ghost Investigations - Skeptical Inquirer

http://www.csicop.org/si/show/ghost-hunting_mistakes_science_and_pseudoscience_in_ghost_investigations

Advice for any paranormal researcher/ghost hunter/parapsychologist

Advice for any paranormal researcher/ghost hunter/parapsychologist and anyone else into related topics (e.g. Cryptozoology, UFO's, etc.) would be to:

1. Always investigate and evaluate all claims, story's and eyewitness testimony

2. Use investigative techniques that police/detectives use if applicable

3. Be familiar with what constitutes as evidence and how to treat and examine it, also be familiar with any equipment you use, how use it properly and repair it

4. Having at least a general education helps greatly esp.in the fields of basic science/related fields, zoology, aircraft, old building hazards and building construction, geology, weather/meteorology, CSI techniques, psychology, medical conditions, interviewing techniques, doing research, taking evidence and notes, how to tell when someone is lying by eye movement/body language, logical fallacies, critical thinking, knowing first aid, local history of area you are investigating, etc.

5. Conducting basic/general research, asking questions, doing interviews, taking notes on paper/tape recorder, writing computer reports, etc.

Flight MH370 Crashed/Went Missing To Unite World Government's?

Flight MH370 crashed/went missing in order to unite most of the world's major governments,
someone told me recently.

Like in Alan Moore's comic book series, graphic novel and movie "Watchmen".

But weren't these government's already friendly towards each other in the first place?

I know the USA and Malaysia are and that the U.S. does business with China, it also
has good relationships with Australia, India, etc. same for many other country's.

Even without the USA e.g. China and Malaysia, Australia and Malaysia, China
and Australia, etc.

Still, something interesting to think about, I guess...... -Rob

More Thoughts on Missing Malaysian Flight MH370:

Yahoo user Frank responds to Torrent (see previous post on this blog, below this one) with these comments regarding missing Flight MH370 via yahoo news comments (see link to article below, also I commented as yahoo user Robert):

"Great post - here's some thoughts-

So - Let's rule some stuff out.

1. Agreed - Suicide is out. The pilot would have to disable some control systems but within his capabilities. But the flew on for 7 hours - he would have had to kill all onboard too - doing that without just crashing the plane is too weird..
2. Kinda - Terrorism is out. It could have been a lone wolf type of thing - like Boston.
3. Agreed - Theft of the plane is out - this is a theory that I believe oringniated on yahoo comment boards and is about as idiotic as even the worst theories.
4. Kinda - Theft of the plane for technology is out, although terrorist would love to have a 777 to learn how to fly on - it's a difficult thing to pull off - the "radar" thing would have watched the plane land anywhere (except Diego Garcia - but the ACARS data does support the plane flying in that direction).
5. Agreed - Military seizure is a very difficult solution to a problem where so many much simpler solutions exist.
6. Out - Communicable diseases theory is straight out of Hollywood - right now there is some producer that is calling Harrison Ford about this movie right now.
7. Out - Theft of the plane to pack it full of nukes - This just couldn't happen for so many, so many, so many, so many, so many reasons - here's a short list - tracking of nukes, tracking of current flights and current squawks, the huge number of civilians that would act as part of all of these systems make a cover up in possible, RADAR - it sees planes flying around, missile defense systems, fighters ready to scramble at a moments notice, ACARS, etc.

Thought on the List of oddities:

1. Complete radio and telephone silence - last words heard: goodnight tower (no stress or concern in voice). Technological know-how and ability to disable communication systems is extreme - and the pilots should have been able to communicate using alternate forms of communication as systems began failing.
2. Disappearance from all area national radars
3. Disappearance occurred on a calm night.
4. All passengers and crew are cleared of terrorist suspicion
5. Pilots are cleared of suicidal tendencies

Conclusions: Need a single thing that can fit into all of the oddities - Rapid Cabin Depressurization - at altitude could kill everyone on board in minutes - O2 system could last 15 minutes as best (and likely on for the pilots at that time). Pilots could have still descended quickly to an altitude with enough O2. BUT, what if a spark in the O2 system cause the explosion - this would eliminate the O2 from the masks, killing everyone on board within 2 minutes. The plane would continuing flying on George - even executing the preprogrammed turnaround towards the nearest airport (common practice) but with dead pilots, the plane would keep flying til flame out."

My own thoughts are that it was either...

1. Poison gas (including, but not limited to Co2 - Carbon Monoxide).
2. Electrical fire that had deadly smoke, fire eventually burned out though.
3. Cabin Depressurization like Frank mentioned above.
4. Terrorist/Lone Wolf Bombings/Other act, also as Frank Mentioned above.
5. A fast paced deadly virus would be possible like Torrent said, possibly, killing all onboard.
6. Pilot Suicide is always possible.
7. Pilot or Hijackers crashed plane into ocean as a political act, religious one, or other. 
8. Something else.

-Rob

Mini-sub to dive again after aborting first MH370 search - Yahoo News

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10 Scientific Explanations For Ghostly Phenomena - Listverse

According to a 2005 Gallup poll, 37 percent ofAmericans believe in haunted houses, and according to a 2013 HuffPost/YouGov poll, 45 percent believe in ghosts. These are surprising numbers, but the next time you hear a spooky sound, don’t call the Ghostbusters—get a scientist instead. Behind every shadow, poltergeist, and disembodied voice, there’s a perfectly rational explanation.

10. Electric Stimulation Of The Brain

Frightened witnesses all over the world have seen the shadow people. These dark beings are glimpsed out of the corner of the eye only to vanish when confronted. Many believe them to be demons, some think they’re astral bodies, and some say they’re time travelers, here for a second and gone. However, some researchers have a more shocking theory.

When Swiss scientists electrically stimulated an epileptic patient’s brain, things got really spooky. The patient reported a shadow person sitting behind her, copying her every move. When she sat up, it also sat up. When she bent forward and grabbed her knees, it reached around her body and held her. The doctors then told her to read a card, but the shadow person tried to take it out of her hand.

What happened was the scientists had stimulated the left temporoparietal junction, the part of the brain that defines the idea of self. By interfering with the area that helps us tell the difference between ourselves and others, the doctors screwed up the brain’s ability to understand its own body, thus leading to the creation of a copycat shadow person. Researchers are hoping this is the key to understanding why so many people, both schizophrenic and healthy, encounter shadow beings and other creatures like aliens.

9. Ideomotor Effect

The Spiritualist movement was pretty big in the 1840s and 1850s. It provided a way for people to talk to their dead loved ones. One method of communication was the Ouija board. Still popular today, the board was covered in letters, numbers, and simple words (like “yes” or “no”). People would then place their hands on a wooden piece called a planchette and ask the spirits a question. A ghost would respond by moving the planchette from letter to letter, spelling out a response (or unleashing Captain Howdy).

Another creepy method for interacting with spirits was table tilting. During a séance, people would gather round a table and place their hands on the tabletop. To everyone’s surprise, the table would start moving by itself. It might tilt up on one leg, levitate off the ground or scoot around the room.

Con men were definitely involved in some of these incidents, but were all these encounters frauds? Renowned physicist Michael Faraday wanted to find out. Through clever experimentation, Faraday discovered that the tables were often moving thanks to the ideomotor effect.

This is when the power of suggestion causes our muscles to move unconsciously. People expected a table to move so they unintentionally moved it. A similar event took place in 1853 when four doctors held an experimental séance. When they secretly told half the participants the table would move to the right and half it would move left, the table didn’t budge. But when they told everyone it would move in one direction, the ideomotor effect struck again! This same principle applies to the Ouija board. It’s our own muscles that are doing the spelling, not the spirits.

8. Infrasound

After seeing a gray ghost near his desk, researcher Vic Tandy was worried his laboratory might be haunted. But the next day, Tandy made an interesting discovery. While preparing for a fencing match, Tandy placed his sword in a vise. He then noticed the blade was vibrating on its own. All of a sudden, everything clicked. He realized the force causing his sword to shake was the same force haunting his lab. Vic Tandy was dealing with infrasound.

Humans can hear sounds up to 20,000 Hertz, but we’re unable to detect anything lower than 20 Hz. These “silent” noises are called infrasound, and while we can’t hear them, we can feel them in the form of vibrations. Dr. Richard Wiseman says we can feel these waves, especially in our stomachs, and this can create either a positive feeling (such as awe) or a negative feeling (such as unease). In the right surroundings (see “creepy house”), this might create a sense of panic.

Infrasound can be produced by storms, wind, weather patterns, and even everyday appliances. Returning to Vic Tandy, after witnessing his wobbling sword, he learned that a new fan had been installed in his laboratory, and sure enough, it was issuing vibrations of about 19 Hz. Since our eyeballs have a resonant frequency around 20 Hz, the infrasound was vibrating Tandy’s eyeballs and creating images that weren’t really there.
When Tandy turned off the fan, presto: no more ghost.

Similarly, Dr. Wiseman believes these vibrations are responsible for paranormal activity in “haunted” locations. For example, when investigating two underground sites, he discovered evidence of infrasound coming from the traffic overhead. Wiseman thinks this explains the ghostly figures and creepy footsteps in these areas, proving there’s nothing good about these vibrations.

7. Automatism

What do witch doctors and Shirley MacLaine have in common? They’re all big into channeling! Channeling is one of mankind’s oldest attempts to reach the spirit world. The idea is to clear the mind, connect with some sort of cosmic consciousness and let a centuries-old spirit possess your body, which doesn’t sound creepy at all. The shamans of ancient religions were believed to channel the dead, TV psychic John Edward says he can speak to those who’ve crossed over, and medium J.Z. Knight claims she channels a spirit named Ramtha, a 35,000-year-old spirit from Atlantis. Obviously, there are quite a few frauds in the channeling community, but what about the people who sincerely believe in what they’re doing?

The answer is automatism, an “altered state of consciousness” where people say things and think things they’re not aware of. So when a psychic clears his mind, he starts searching for a friendly spirit guide. The spirit guide is supposed to enter his body and then provide secret knowledge about the universe. When the psychic clears his mind, random ideas and images start popping up in his head, and the medium assumes these thoughts are coming from another entity. However, these ideas are just coming from his mind.

Our brains are capable of coming up with all kinds of crazy stuff without any conscious effort on our part. How many times has something inspired you out of the blue? How many times have you had totally bizarre nightmares or daydreams? That’s not the work of an otherworldly guide. That’s your brain, working overtime all the time.

6. Drafts

You’re exploring a creepy, run-down mansion in the middle of the night when suddenly the air grows cold. However, if you take a few steps to the left or right, the temperature returns to normal. This is what parapsychologists call a cold spot. According to ghost hunters, a cold spot is a sign of paranormal activity. When a ghost has nothing better to do than appear out of thin air and scare people to death, it needs energy. So the ghost draws heat from its surroundings (including people) in order to manifest.

However, scientists have a much simpler (and much more boring) explanation. When skeptics investigate “haunted” houses, they usually find cool air entering the house through a chimney or window. But even if the room is sealed off, there’s still a perfectly rational explanation. Every object has its own temperature, and some surfaces are hotter than others. In an attempt to equalize the room temperature, the objects try to lose heat in a process called convection. This is where hot air rises, and cool air drops. Similarly, when dry air enters a humid room, the dry air sinks to the floor and the humid air rises to the ceiling. This swirling air will feel cool against a person’s skin, giving the impression of a cold spot. Next time you feel a ghostly presence, turn on the heater

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In 1921, ophthalmologist William Wilmer published a bizarre paper in the American Journal of Ophthalmology. It told the story of the “H” family and their haunted house. Their hell home was plagued with the sounds of slamming doors, moving furniture and footsteps in empty rooms. One of the children felt something sitting on him while the other was attacked by a mysterious stranger. During the night, the woman of the house awoke to see a man and a woman standing at the foot of her bed, only to watch them vanish moments later. As the hauntings continued, the family grew tired and depressed, and then their plants started to die. It was then they discovered the faulty furnace. The furnace was supposed to send its fumes up the chimney, but instead the gas was pouring into the house. It turns out the family was suffering from carbon monoxide poisoning.

Carbon monoxide (CO) is an odorless, colorless gas, which makes it really hard to detect. It’s dangerous because our red blood cells absorb CO much easier than they do oxygen, and this oxygen deprivation leads to symptoms such as weakness, nausea, confusion, and eventually death. But before you kick the bucket, you might experience hallucinations, just like the “H” family. For example, in 2005, a woman called the authorities after seeing a spirit in her bathroom. It turned out the paranormal activity was due to her leaky water heater which was filling the house with CO. Bottom line: Stay away from carbon monoxide, folks, because one way or another, it’ll have you seeing ghosts.

                                                                                                           


4. Carbon Monoxide Poisoning

In 1921, ophthalmologist William Wilmer published a bizarre paper in the American Journal of Ophthalmology. It told the story of the “H” family and their haunted house. Their hell home was plagued with the sounds of slamming doors, moving furniture and footsteps in empty rooms. One of the children felt something sitting on him while the other was attacked by a mysterious stranger. During the night, the woman of the house awoke to see a man and a woman standing at the foot of her bed, only to watch them vanish moments later. As the hauntings continued, the family grew tired and depressed, and then their plants started to die. It was then they discovered the faulty furnace. The furnace was supposed to send its fumes up the chimney, but instead the gas was pouring into the house. It turns out the family was suffering from carbon monoxide poisoning.

Carbon monoxide (CO) is an odorless, colorless gas, which makes it really hard to detect. It’s dangerous because our red blood cells absorb CO much easier than they do oxygen, and this oxygen deprivation leads to symptoms such as weakness, nausea, confusion, and eventually death. But before you kick the bucket, you might experience hallucinations, just like the “H” family. For example, in 2005, a woman called the authorities after seeing a spirit in her bathroom. It turned out the paranormal activity was due to her leaky water heater which was filling the house with CO. Bottom line: Stay away from carbon monoxide, folks, because one way or another, it’ll have you seeing ghosts.

3. Mass Hysteria

In June 2013, over 3,000 workers went on strike at a garment factory in Gazipur, Bangladesh. They weren’t protesting against long working hours, and they weren’t demanding better wages. They wanted someone to do something about the ghost in the restroom. An angry spirit had attacked a worker in the lady’s room, causing everyone to panic. A riot ensued, and the police had to restore order. A similar event took place at a school in Patong, Phuket when 22 students were hospitalized after seeing the ghost of an old woman. But while the Bangladeshi factory owner ordered an exorcism, perhaps he should have called a counselor instead.

Both the workers and the students experienced a psychological phenomenon known as mass hysteria. These collective delusions occur when people are really stressed out, usually thanks to their oppressive environments (like a strict school or busy workplace). This pent-up stress then turns into physical symptoms like headaches, nausea, or violent spasms. Throw in religious and cultural beliefs, a relatively isolated environment and the always-busy rumor mill, and you’ve got a recipe for disaster. Other people will “catch” the same strange symptoms, they’ll spread like a disease, and panic ensues.

It’s interesting to note that very few of the 3,000 factory workers actually encountered the ghost. Even the woman who sparked the frenzy didn’t actually see anything. She got sick and just assumed it was the work of an evil spirit, but the suggestion was so powerful and the circumstances were so perfect that everyone freaked out. Fortunately, it didn’t end with human sacrifices or dogs and cats living together.

2. Ions

Unfortunately, real ghost hunters don’t carry proton packs. However, they do use tools such as the ion counter. The ion counter, well, counts ions. An ion is an atom with an uneven amount of protons and electrons. If an atom gains an electron, it becomes a negative ion, and if it loses an electron, it becomes positive.

Ghost hunters go crazy over ions because they supposedly show a paranormal presence. Some say a spirit’s presence interferes with the normal ion count in the atmosphere while others say ghosts draw upon ionic energy when they want to appear and scare people to death. However, ion counters are really pretty lousy when it comes to detecting ghosts. Ions are caused by all kinds of natural phenomena like weather, solar radiation, and radon gas. So it basically comes down to how someone interprets the evidence. Scientists see ions and think, “Natural.” Ghost hunters see ions and think, “Paranormal!”

Interestingly, both positive and negative ions can affect our moods. Negative ions can make us feel calm and relaxed while positive ions can give us headaches and make us feel lousy. This might explain why people who live in “haunted” houses describe feeling tired and tense, as well as having headaches.

1. Quantum Mechanics

Quantum mechanics is the study of the smallest types of matter, and it has led to some pretty awesome inventions. However, it can get pretty weird when physicists start talking about souls and ghosts. Take, for example, Dr. Stuart Hameroff and his physicist friend Roger Penrose. Hameroff and Penrose theorize that human consciousness comes from microtubules inside our brain cells, and these tubules are responsible for quantum processing (our souls basically). Hameroff and Penrose believe when people have a near-death experience, all that quantum information leaves the brain, yet continues to exist, which is why some people report out-of-body experiences and lights at the end of tunnels.

As you might expect, a lot of scientists have problems with Hameroff and Penrose’s theory. But Dr. Henry Stapp isn’t one of them. As a respected quantum physicist who worked with the famous Heisenberg, Stapp believes that a person’s personality might be able to survive death and exist as a “mental entity.” Stapp theorizes if these entities could return to the physical world, then concepts like possession and channeling could really be possible. Are men like Stapp, Hameroff, and Penrose just wishful thinkers? Or are they modern day Galileos?

Nolan Moore was once bitten on the foot by an alligator, but he survived to become an ESL teacher. He hopes to avoid future alligator encounters and one day make it as a writer.

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Graveyard Shift workers of Reddit, what crazy, creepy, unbelievable things have you seen working in the dead of night?

"I was out on patrol of our camp in Guatemala a few years back. We had heard stories about how the place was haunted with Aztec activity in the area, but I never really paid much attention to it. So there was about 4 or 5 of us in a van just kinda hanging out, going around camp, and keeping an eye out for anything out of place. We stopped the van at one point, and everyone got out to walk around a little and a few of the guys wanted to smoke.

So I'm standing in front of this small field of grass that's about knee high, when I hear a rustling. I said something out loud about it and a few other guys came over to check it out. It was a relatively well lit area, and we figured it would be some small animal-probably one of the big lizards they had in the area. Next thing we know, the rustling starts coming straight at us, and you see the grass parting as if someone was walking through it (kinda staggered instead of just one straight line). We all hauled ass for the van, and got outta there as quick as possible! I think at one point, there was a guy just standing on the back bumper and hanging on the roof rack. lol As we were driving away, we were looking back to make sure it wasn't just something we were going to laugh about after it came out of the grass, but sure enough-we could see the grass rustling all the way up to the roadside and then it just stopped.

We were ready to deal with any man or beast that we come across, but you put something that seems like a ghost in front of us and we're out!

I know this part isn't graveyard shift related, but it is related to what we saw that night:

I don't remember if this was the day of or if it happened the day after, but it was within an hour or so of sunset, and we were getting ready for a security briefing coming up. I stepped in the port-o-john to handle buisness, and when I came out I see a bunch of my guys standing up on an embankment looking out towards the beach. I head over and ask them what happened. They tell me they heard a blood curling scream, then looked down the beach and saw what looked like a man dragging a woman down the beach. So I asked them what were they still standing around for, lets go check into this. About 4 or 5 of us took off, and when we got to the beach, we saw foot prints in the sand with occasional drag marks. So we put our rifles in condition one, and start following the marks. We followed it for about 1/4 mile and the marks just stopped.

They didn't start heading off the beach, it wasn't an area where the water could have erased them-they just stopped.

So...that was kinda creepy. I was glad all that happened during our last day or two before we got out of Guatemala."

Graveyard Shift workers of Reddit, what crazy, creepy, unbelievable things have you seen working in the dead of night?

Paranormal Investigating 101

A good paranormal investigator with be interested in and should know the basics of, and study what you mentioned above plus the following:

1. human psychology and sociology, 2. human anatomy 3. mental illness 4. brain chemistry and functions including hormones, chemicals, etc. and disorders 5. basic science 6. effects of night/day cycle on Earth/Human Body 7. geology 8. building materials, inspection and repair and at least 7-8 other areas, including knowing about how to rule out paranormal explanations for natural ones during investigations of alleged hauntings and paranormal activity e.g. old house being creaky and falling apart, etc. being responsible for certain noises.

Graveyard Shift workers of Reddit crazy, unexplained, odd, strange, unbelevable stories and events

Taking from my Facebook page:

Haunting's do exist and I suspect they are nothing more then simple recordings on the environment, sound mainly, recorded unto the environment under certain conditions, in certain area's that are high stress-high emotion places like Hospitals, Mental Institutions and other places where human emotions run high (I have to wonder about death camps and gas chambers regarding this issue).

These emotions are recorded onto the environment, like a tape recorder, but may also include images and actions such as doors being opened, and played back under the right conditions. Certain people may be able to pick them up more then others.

See story below for an example:

"I work at a hospital overnight.

One disturbed patient claimed to be jesus. He clawed his eye out, popped it and ate it before he was restrained. Very disturbing.

Many employees claim this hospital was haunted. I thought it was nonsense. A few things happened here, that's given me a belief there's more to people than a heart beat.

They close 4th floor occasionally. It used to be a baby ward. I was up there when I heard a baby crying. I called security. He heard it too. No baby anywhere. One night I was assigned to strip and wax a few rooms up there. While starting a door slammed shut across the hall. I called out who was there. Nobody was. Looking in the room, no air flow, no windows opened. I calmly took my equipment and left. The next day my boss asked me why I didn't do my job. I said I don't get paid enough to deal with doors that slam by themselves.

By far the creepiest. I was cleaning two rooms after patients left. They were connected. There was one exit. I cleaned the first room. Left for 10 minutes, got my supplies and went back to the other. I saw a little old lady in a chair, hunched oveer. I stared at her for a few sconds, thought it was odd they put a patient in already. Two female nurses ask if I was sitting in the chair. They get scared. Nope, it was an old lady. Well, I check. Room is empty. She disappeared. I would have seen if she walked passed me. Creepy. No one on the floor fit the description I gave of her - except the lady who died in the room 4 hours before my shift.
I work in a very old hospital. I hear whispers, see shadows, and sometimes more. I am very skeptic but seeing a ghost would be neat."

Graveyard Shift workers of Reddit, what crazy, creepy, unbelievable things have you seen working in the dead of night?

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