Cryptozoology.com's Top Two Forum Trolls - ZZ and Stu

One of my favorite sites on the internet is of course Cryptozoology.com

However, if you go to the forum's they are a mix of several different kinds
of people. These people often come from educated backgrounds but with
different of diverse worldviews on religion, politics, cryptozoology, etc.

There are over a dozen forums on the site with over a hundred users.

I used to post there often but was banned due to my religious views and
convictions (I am a Christian btw who is liberal not conservative) after
numerous debates on the evolution vs creationism forum.

I would like to present here a list of Cryptozoology.com's top two
forum trolls who frequent the forums and do nothing else but present
one sided arguments, logical fallacies and unsound thinking skills:

1. ZZ

ZZ is against freedom of speech and offers nothing but one sided
arguments, logical fallacy's and unsound thinking - debating skills

ZZ enjoys silencing critics and promoting hatred of others through
the use of psychology, often getting people to side with her even
when proven wrong.

Her solution to someone she dislikes on the forums is simply banning
them rather then defeating them in debate.

2. Stu

Stu lacks comprehension, understanding, empathy and often
starts arguments over nothing in particular.

Not a gentleman nor a troll, Stu is a mix of someone who hates
others as well as himself. He is often very intolerant of those with
different worldviews then his.

People such as ZZ and Stu are very good writers and good at
using psychology as well on Cryptozoology.com's forums to
get others to side with them and in an attempt to force their
worldview on others. This also includes mocking others,
insults, ad homs and a variety of other offenses as well
such as threats of reporting or getting other users banned.

My advice to them is this through a friend, Joe Freas:

"Just remember this whenever you see a post you don't like or don't agree with,
everybody has a right to post what they desire, (whether it be atheists, satanists,
Catholics, neo-nazis, etc.). It's what men and women who served in the United
States Armed Forces have fought for, for decades so that any and everybody
has a voice." -Joe Freas, U.S. Army Chaplain

Well said Joe. I think it's time I take your advice as well.

On a side note...

All the others on these forums are, generally speaking, good people
who show some sort of an interest in Cryptozoology - whether
resident skeptics Rainbow Medicine Man, Karl, Sheriff Fatman,
NM, IrishTheRuler, or Christian believers on the E vs C forum
such as Hootowl, hroth, etc.

I think Cisco (owner of CZ.com) and Gerry Bacon do a somewhat decent
job of moderating the forum though the moderators often lack interest in getting
involved with big debates on it but they tend to get involved only when a freind
is insulted or offended or when they are over a particular post or user.

Again, I think friend and intellectual U.S. Army Chaplain Joe Freas said it best about
the internet in general:

"As far as those idiots on the internet go, remember this one key factor; "These individuals
themselves are angered because they're lost. They are lost in their own lives, their own dreams,
their friends and family life may not be going the way they had hoped. Most of the time,
they blame the world for their own faults, their own losses, etc. Don't let them bring you
down too."

Thanks for reading

Stay tuned for more... -Rob

Stu, a typical CZ.com forum troll or, possibly, the offspring of Stu and ZZ


Update!


Stu has posted the following on Cryptozoology.com about me:


See here: http://www.cryptozoology.com/forum/topic_view_thread.php?tid=1&pid=867080


Note that Stu and other bully's on the site and forums over there often call people Retarded,
Mentally Disabled, Insane, Mentally Challenged or Mentally Ill such as in Stu's current post
on the evolution vs creationism forum:


Evolution deniers are mentally ill -  Stu  Tue, Apr 24 2012, 12:51pm


CZ.com's members are such hypocrites. They should practice what they preach.


Also I do have Asperger's Syndrome combined with LD's when I was younger
and did take Special Ed classes for a while in school. Now I'm just another
average joe. -Rob

Update:

Stu vs me on the word retard - Cryptozoology.com

Stu... I think my friend Leisa said it best via her facebook status. Which I've tried to explain
all along but to no avail....

Leisa:

"Okay, I make jokes most of the time. Some of them are offensive to those easily offended (meaning I could make a joke about a board, and someone will be offended because they once had a splinter). And I'm getting a little sick of how I have to think of things before I post them.

I'm the furthest thing away from a racist since brown skin (which I own, by the way), but damn, I'm not completely PC and never will be. I use the word "retarded" because that doesn't mean "special needs" to me. It means someone like Palin, Bachmann, O'Donnell, Joe Walsh (the politician, although ... well, never mind), and people like that. People too stupid to even know what "stupid" means. People who hate and destroy. They are retarded! Is your special needs child/sibling/whatever like them? NO WAY! I know special needs people. They're only full of love and kindness. So get over the use. It's time YOU took yourself away from that label, not me. I already know what it means.

And sometimes, a joke is a joke. Or meant to be a joke. Some people need to point out the details, when all I was trying to do was make someone laugh. I know you feel better about yourself when you do that, but what about someone somewhere else who just needed to smile? And then read your rebuttal and got angry? Oh, yeah, that's an emotional uplift right there.

Just send me a FB email. This way, I can block you. (Yes, I'm that intolerant of egotists.)

This is FACEBOOK. It's not real life. I try to be a good person in both instances, but I also know the realm the internet can give us. So if I can make one person I never met laugh or smile, how cool is THAT? Seriously, take your issues elsewhere. I have enough to deal with in real life, and I just want to make one person smile/laugh a day. Your obsession in making others feel bad does NOT interest me."